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posted September 23, 2003 08:33 AM
I met panther in Vegas after talking to him several times on the phone.
we got along great and gambled and drank together most of the trip.
back home I went as far as to set him up with a small credit line offshore at a book I have done business with.
the first week he plays a handful of games at 200-300 each and loses around 500 to me, which I had laid off since I no longer book games.
he loses 997 to the offshore and since he doesn't have a net teller account he deposits the money in a bank account and I send them the money net teller and pay off here for him.

the second week he doesn't reach the settle figure offshore but increases his games to 16 total. 6 on sat . one for 500, one for 200 and the rest for 300. he loses 200 sat. no big deal
Sunday he plays 10 games . 1 for 400, 5 for 300, 3 for 200, 1 for 100.
he loses 1390 on Sunday making his total 1590.
he had 1560 in my bank account on Monday before 2.
the 30 was overlooked , no big deal.

this week started off with a split for 300 each on thurs and friday.
then on sat he has 12 games for 500 each.
I have been doing business with my local for 6 years and he makes up his own golf and nascar lines, I have a settle figure with him and we square up like clock work on tuesdays, never a problem in 6 years.
his golf and nascar lines alone are worth the running around to pay off promptly when I have to.i cant lose this out for anything. period.
I lay these off and am questioned what I am doing because I never bet that many games. panther loses 550 on sat making him -580 going to sunday. all laid off.

sunday he calls and wants 7 games for 500 on the 1 o'clock kicks.
I have slept on this and am already over my settle figure with my local.after thinking about it I realize that if these blow I am looking at coming up with a large figure with my local on tuesday. I don't feel comfortable with this and tell panther I can get him down 250 a game on his 7 games. he goes 1-5-1 . at 4 he wants 4 more games.
2-8-1 for the day ..-1750 with some 1/2 point buys -2330 week
no big deal.



at 7:30 he wants to bet the entire figure on the bears. I say what
yea I want to <let it ride> on the bears he says. I tell him 500 max
because thats all can get down for him because i am already over my settle figure with my local and my local is accomadating me even though
i am over my settle figure.Panther goes into a tirade about paying me all this money. That he isnt going to pay and hangs up.Before it dawns on me he has hung up i call back and he want come to the phone.First
he didnt pay me anything i paid off for him.
then it dawns on me he will use this as an excuse not to pay.
I call offshore and he is down 800 and change with his balance bet on the bears. I tell the head guy that I know I am responsible for the 800 but not the outstanding bet. he cancels the outstanding bet

so I am stuck decent dollars now and learned a valuable lesson
here is a guy that I defended and actually like, shove it up my ass for a for 3153 dollars.



plain and simple he took a shot at me and i am now out of pocket
3153.
i did this strictly out of friendship and had it shoved up my ass

these are the facts and when he comes on and challenges them i am sure he will have an excuse for stiffing me.
i just want to make sure everybody knows the facts and hope they dont get screwed like i did.
 

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NO good deed ever goes unpunished.
Lesson learned. Sorry to hear it.
 

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SEA...that is not cool at all...I hope panther does the right thing here and squares up...that sucks
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Got to be careful fronting or loaning more than $300 total to any gambler.
 

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jj since you and i have become buddies
you are right



i was taken by the <gomer pyle> look
 

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DAAAAAMMN! That is absolutely ridiculous! I am certain that you have better things to do in life than to have this consume your weekends.
 

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Sea: I think you might be reading Pete wrong --- I think he's stating that you obviously have better things to do with your time during the weekends than hunt down some dirtbag who's trying to stiff you
 

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Condolences Urchin...sorry to hear it...hopefully Panther gets back on his feet and takes care of business...
 

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THrill,

Not sure what you mean by panther getting back on his feet? He won't even pick up the phone to tell Sea he can't pay right now. One thing to get you ass in trouble, another thing to just ignore it.
 

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What an ass.. This is one fvcked up situation


Fvck panther
 

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If THIS doesnt belong in the main forum...

then WHAT DOES????

Sea, I hope he does the right thing, I'm sorry to hear this. You did the absolute right thing by not taking the Bears' figure.
 

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jwun - just hoping he eventually does the right thing and pays off his debt...it certainly doesn't look good right now, but hopefully he'll come around, grow some balls, and pay SeaUrchin like he should...
 

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It was bad enough that "padther" was an alcoholic attention whore who can't spell or keep records accurately. Being a low-life scam artist/shottaker is a new low though even for him. LMFAO, betting 10 dimes on his 5 units plays. What a ****ing joke.
 

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JDOG quote:
"He won't even pick up the phone to tell Sea he can't pay right now. One thing to get you ass in trouble, another thing to just ignore it"

Right on buddy! Anyone who gambles can understand someone biting off more then they can chew. Admitt it, appologize for it, and make reasonable arrangemets to fulfill your obligations.

Panther
I know your reading this! Call Sea make arrangements and quit gambling for awhile
 

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